SARS AND THE
AUTISM AND MERCURY
Animal Activist KP Stoller, MD President, International Hyperbaric Medical Assoc
Medical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexico
Interviewed by Claudette Vaughan, Abolitionist Online
As an animal liberationist you were Science Editor, of the
Animals' Voice Magazine which was published in the late 1980's. And you were the
doctor who tried to have Dr. Leonard Baley indicted on murder charges for
putting a baboon heart into an infant. That’s a stroke of genius. Can you tell
us how that came about please?
KP Stoller: I
think the important point is less about my muse and more why the authorities
never stepped up to the plate, because as a society every time we let someone
get away with murder, the fundamental underlying issues never get resolved.
Baley, now long gone from Loma Linda, was considered a local hero, and the
courts in Redlands
were star-struck (as it was explained to me). The assistant District Attorney
told me that they did not want to cost taxpayers the expense of putting on a
case they could not get a conviction on. Baley would have his witnesses and the
County would have their witnesses and the Judge would say this doesn't belong in
a court of law and was over his head, and the case would be thrown out.
I have to say
there may have been a great deal of truth to that excuse, but it was an excuse.
I am a little sad that I never learned of any other bio-ethicist step up to the
plate and put pressure on Loma Linda the way I did. Nevertheless...they never
did another transplant.
You are currently involved in trying to eliminate the
mercury-laden adulterant from all vaccines used in the USA and elsewhere for
human use. Regrettably, thimerosal is used in many vaccines destined for animal
use, and do to the small size of some of these animals, such as small domestic
animals, they take a very large mercury hit, that exceeds safety guidelines many
times over. Some of these animals get sick, and some die - no one ever knowing
it was form ethyl-mercury in the vaccines they received. Your agenda is to
attack at the weakest link and watch the chain unravel under its own inertia at
that point. Please talk about this?
KP Stoller: I
am convinced we are making many animals very ill by loading them up with organic
mercury, especially the small animals. Mercury pollution in all its forms is but
the tip of the iceberg in this arena. I don't even want to know what we are
breathing in on a daily basis, but I am sure it would cause almost everyone to
find it difficult to sleep at night, let alone breathe. There is no defence for
pumping out mercury into the environment or into our bodies, and yet this
continues, especially in relationship to coal-fire power plants. This is all
very much linked to Global Warming. I don't know whether we are going to cook
ourselves off the planet or poison ourselves off the planet, but unless there is
Divine intervention I have to be less than optimistic about the future of higher
life forms being able to exist on this planet.
There is increasingly more and more evidence linking mercury
poison with autism. Please out line your views here Dr Stoller.
KP Stoller: If
you had a room of 500 people with diabetes, but you didn't know that a single
agent was responsible for their disease you might find it hard to believe that
they all had this single pathology in common. Some would be having amputations
from problem wounds, some would be passing out and going into coma, some would
be going blind. The same is true for autism. There are no genetic epidemics. One
in six children now have a neurobehavioral disorder. There is now enough
evidence to point the finger at heavy metals as the cause, the single cause
although there are multiple epigenetic co-factors.
In Dr Horowitz’s book “Emerging Viruses: AIDS and Ebola: Nature, Accident or
Intentional? his studies gathered evidence to conclude that the AIDS and Ebola
viruses evolved during cancer virus experiments where monkeys were infected with
viral genes from other animals. Can you speak about this please?
That's kicking over a hornet's nest. Yes, it's probably true that our modern
plaques were unleashed upon mankind, consciously or not, by our own hands. I am
not will to necessarily vouch for Horowitz's version of the story, but that
doesn't change the big picture.
Is AIDS, Ebola, SARS and the Avian flu just different forms of
SARS was a Chinese bio-warfare experiment that got out of control and even
surprised its handlers. There is nothing new about Avian flu, but it became very
convenient to terrorize everyone with and put a lot of money in certain pockets.
You have to understand that there have been those shadowy interests that have
always wanted to have the ability to control the population on this planet
because they think they know what is in their best interest, and their interests
are all that matters to them. They are clueless, and are going to get their just
desserts and comeuppance soon enough. They have over-played their rolls, and the
hook is coming.
Abolitionist: Why do you think the orthodox war on cancer in the laboratory and
finding a cure has failed, in many cases it’s getting worse. All the billions
and billions of dollars fundraised to supposingly “fight cancer” has come to
nothing except more animal experimentation and fatter grants. Is this a hoax?
KP Stoller: War
is the problem. When there is a war there is profiteering, and those that profit
from war don't want war to stop. It doesn't matter what the war is. Follow the
Can you talk about animal vaccines and why more and more scientists and doctors
oppose them? Are vaccines a shot in the dark? Are they causing more diseases
than what they are curing?
KP Stoller: At
this moment in history, when the vaccine-pharma industry has been one side of
the coin and the bio-warfare industry is the other side of the coin, I don't
think one can trust what is in vaccines. The cover-up over Thimerosal is just
one facet of this. A viable tool has been exploited for greed and population
Last year the BBC
News ran a story reporting that cystic fibrosis could be treated using elements
of two potentially fatal viruses – HIV and Ebola. “The viruses are used to
deliver a healthy version of the gene which is faulty in CF directly into lung
cells. The University
of Pennsylvania researchers say tests on monkeys show the method is most
effective”. Can you debunk that Dr Stoller?
KP Stoller: The
potential for certain diseases to be treated by an infection of something
benevolent has always been a viable theory waiting to be responsibly exploited.
I am not familiar with the research the BBC reported on, but I would read any of
these reports with great caution.
Abolitionist: In an article “Activists Force The Pigs To Fly To Asia” Michael
Blackman wrote that it’s been estimated that 10-15% of the costs of drug
discovery in the US and Britain goes towards animal testing. The total cost of
bringing a new drug to the market can be more than us 1 billion dollars (AUS.1.3
billion) and that this business has been increasingly outsourced to Asia. China
already supplies most of the world’s primates for animal testing, big tax and
up-front incentives have attracted several leading researchers to Singapore and
as shown by GlaxoSmithCline’s new venture 115 million dollars has gone into
their new Research and Development facility which will further promote this
trend. Blackman concludes by saying “…the West continues to strip itself of
tasks that are dirty, boring and now, controversial”. I’d like to hear your
KP Stoller: I
am not surprised to learn about this out-sourcing, but it doesn't change the
underlying problems with using animal models in medical and pharma research.
They are not cost-effective, nor information effective. Cruelty is another
issue, but not one that would impact on those that are so involved. Using animal
models is a lot like using torture to get information from people. You can get
them to say just about anything, but the information is not useful.
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pretty well known in the pharmaceutical industry that animal testing has
virtually no correlation
with human results.
If you call it research,
you can get away with murder.